Curse

Frost21 · Feb 19, 2007, 06:54 AM // 06:54

Well I used the exact same build from this:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:M...55hp_Solo_Monk

As I finally used it , i notice it was fairly slow at killing trolls,is there alternative to one of the spells to make the killing much faster?

Please and thanks..

(Prophecies only)

Frost21 · Feb 19, 2007, 09:20 AM // 09:20

Bump! anyone?

vespertine · Feb 19, 2007, 05:26 PM // 17:26

you could use spiteful spirit, spoil victor or sliver armor + glyph of renewal..

anyways.. farming trolls is boring and the profit is quite modest.. so you'd better just find yourself an SS/famine-ranger/smiter and go to uw instead..

lioka pelenoria · Feb 19, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Shield of Judgement is because it can free your secondary to use usually for Warrior for Bonetti's defense (primary reason you can survive as a 55 monk against large amounts of melee aggro). The problem is that it is an extremely slow killer. Vespertine covered the usual substitutions. Mo/N is usually preferred to combine Spiteful with Reckless Haste, making for a relatively fast killer. If your goal is to make money, i'd do what he said, find a partner for UW, or go solo with the warrior/rit solo VWK build (for when everyone is ripping you off when they partner with you)

olly123 · Feb 19, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

so to save another thread can u still famin UW?, with the nerf to SV/AV?

lioka pelenoria · Feb 19, 2007, 05:59 PM // 17:59

You never really needed sv/av to farm UW, simply multiple hexes for the smites. SV/AV simply made it easier to do it, and they are still effective for farming.

Age · Feb 20, 2007, 12:03 AM // 00:03

There is lots of posts in the farming forum and you might want bonetti's and riposte.

olly123 · Feb 20, 2007, 06:09 PM // 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by lioka pelenoria

You never really needed sv/av to farm UW, simply multiple hexes for the smites. SV/AV simply made it easier to do it, and they are still effective for farming.

i really ment for a famin ranger, as SV/AV kills them, and against grasping/aaxies there a pain, cos thay inturupt, unless kept up constantly

Pwnd by a guineapig · Feb 21, 2007, 01:16 AM // 01:16

From Tsunami Rain's 55hp build there should be Zealots fire, and SoJ... judging that from the looks of your post your smiting prayers arent 16..
making money does take time... its not a instant thing

Oren The Destroyer · Feb 21, 2007, 02:08 AM // 02:08

What are the counters to NM's now? 1 second cast makes it just about impossible to wand to death, and virtually the only way to counter them is SB...

XvArchonvX · Feb 21, 2007, 02:25 AM // 02:25

To be honest, troll farming is a complete and utter waste of time. It gives some of the worst drops in the game.

ArKaiN · Feb 21, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53

Lose the blessed signet, add zealot`s.
Simple as that.

olly123 · Feb 21, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oren The Destroyer

What are the counters to NM's now? 1 second cast makes it just about impossible to wand to death, and virtually the only way to counter them is SB...

u can use Power Return, with no points in mes secondry, thats incase SB runs out tho

ddark624 · Feb 22, 2007, 03:13 PM // 15:13

my 'normal' 55 monk build which i change, depending on were i am going is,

prot spirit
Shield of Absorb/ healing breeze (make sure u have healing breeze if you going against monsters giving you higer than -3 health degen)
Shield of judgemet(damage dealer)
blessed signet
Zeliots fire(this is the chageable skill, depending on where your going)
Blessed aura
Balths spirit
mending

my att are set at

healing=8
smithing=15
protect=14
divine=8

this is with all atribute points and runes of supirior on ur armour, hope this helps

ArKaiN · Feb 22, 2007, 11:22 PM // 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddark624

my 'normal' 55 monk build which i change, depending on were i am going is,

prot spirit
Shield of Absorb/ healing breeze (make sure u have healing breeze if you going against monsters giving you higer than -3 health degen)
Shield of judgemet(damage dealer)
blessed signet
Zeliots fire(this is the chageable skill, depending on where your going)
Blessed aura
Balths spirit
mending

my att are set at

healing=8
smithing=15
protect=14
divine=8

this is with all atribute points and runes of supirior on ur armour, hope this helps

You need 9 healing to get 10 pips of regen.
Also not using 16 smiting and using that much prot prayers just to raise the duration of spirit(and not all enchants, mind you; thats a 23% blessed aura) is downright silly. Aura is there primarily to extend SoJ, not to make your PS as lenghy as possible. Shield of Absorbtion blows now because of the cast time Vs duration.

ddark624 · Feb 23, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

but the funny think is i can do all farms with that basic build so its not bad plus u only have 2 wait 10 seconds when soj ends 2 use it again

BrotherGilburt · Feb 23, 2007, 01:53 AM // 01:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guildwiki

Only certain enemies will be effectively damaged by this build. Enemies that are knocked down by Shield of Judgment will scatter; enemies such as hydras cannot be knocked down and therefore will be damaged by this build. Before you use this or any other build with Shield of Judgment to farm monsters, do some research to see if they can be knocked down or not before deciding whether to bring Shield of Judgment.

Also, when considering choosing an area, try to find an area with abundant ranged attackers, such as Ranger or Paragon, who do not flee from damage as melee creatures do. Ice Imps and Siege Ice Golems are good enemies to farm outside Ice Caves of Sorrow.

Quoted from http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:Mo/any_SoA_Monk

Goes for all 55hp builds that use SoJ though.

Brother Gilburt

ArKaiN · Feb 23, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherGilburt

Quoted from http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:Mo/any_SoA_Monk

Goes for all 55hp builds that use SoJ though.

Brother Gilburt

this, however, is complete BS.
You can farm Blessed Griphons REALLY well with this build, and they get knocked down. True, about 10% of them scatter after they hit 50% health, and you have to actually move and hit them once so they start attacking again. So what.
You CAN farm only using SoJ: it`s just much slower than if you were using Z.Fire too. Plus, you don't need blessed signet at all, so why bother.

olly123 · Feb 23, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArKaiN

this, however, is complete BS.
You can farm Blessed Griphons REALLY well with this build, and they get knocked down. True, about 10% of them scatter after they hit 50% health, and you have to actually move and hit them once so they start attacking again. So what.
You CAN farm only using SoJ: it`s just much slower than if you were using Z.Fire too. Plus, you don't need blessed signet at all, so why bother.

proberbly because ur farmign no more than 3 at a time, if u where to take on 4 then they will scatter but 1-3 is ok what gilburt put down is true, u cant farm any foes who attack with an sword/Scyth/Axe/hammer/ daggers in groups larger than 3 or thay will scatter